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    Inicio > Historias > Caught by his own words

    Caught by his own words

    In 2004, freshly sworn into office, our leader Zapatero said in this interview in Time magazine:
    That's what I call "citizen's socialism" — I accept that when an overwhelming majority of citizens says something, they are right

    Last opinion polls say that 51% of Spaniards have an unfavorable opinion of Zapatero's performance as a president, against only 44% who have a favorable opinion.
    The people has talked, and I guess the people is right. Let's see when he mentions that in a speech. Or interview.

    2008-07-25 18:30 | 8 Comment(s) | Filed in Politics

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    De: Marcelo Fecha: 2008-07-29 15:24

    Hi, JJ!

    Politicians always do not cite anything that could mess up their "reputation". If the people itself owns a Markovian-like memory, much better to them, since they may speak and promise anything they want to and the layman will not remember what had been said. :)

    The Brazilian people has a very short time memory. I would say a sub-Markovian one.

    I do not know if that holds to the Spanish people. I hope not.

    Hasta La Vista!


    De: JJ Fecha: 2008-07-29 16:34

    People is people, Marcelo.

    De: Anónima Fecha: 2008-08-26 11:38

    I don't know if I'm getting a politian point of view in life and statistics, but 51% doesn't seem an "overwhelming" majority to me. Is it bad, doctor? ;-)

    De: JJ Fecha: 2008-08-26 12:15

    If 8 points more than those who have a favorable opinion is not overwhelming enough...

    De: Anónima Fecha: 2008-08-26 13:11

    The sentence that Zapatero said had a context:

    "But public opinion in Europe is totally against the war in Iraq. I think a modern democracy should be very sensitive to public opinion. That's what I call "citizen's socialism" — I accept that when an overwhelming majority of citizens says something, they are right."

    90% of the spanish citizens was against the iraqui war.

    That's the kind of "overwhelming majority" Zapatero was talking about I guess.

    There's nothing near 90% of spanish people that would prefer another president.

    So perhaps it's not a case of political memory loss...

    De: JJ Fecha: 2008-08-26 13:22

    It wouldn't be difficult to find things done by the socialist government that got less than 20% percent support, or even 10% support, at least as easy as finding a context where in ideal terms he's not committing a blunder, but, at the end of the day, he's talking about majorities and popularity and democracy and "being right", which means that the people is saying he's not being a good, or not to put too fine a line on it, "popular" president, and the the people is right.

    De: Anónima Fecha: 2008-08-26 13:31

    It would be quite difficult to find anything done by the actual government as impopular as the participation of Spain in the iraqui war. At least as I remeber this opposition. But then my memory is sureley leaking because I had decided not to comment in blogs while the work is piling up.

    It's being a pleasure to desagree with you :-)

    De: JJ Fecha: 2008-09-03 08:10

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